PC Team, when will the dates for the Winter/Autumn 2003 PC be confirmed? The web site still shows TBC.

I want to make sure that work/vacation commitments don't interfere with the joy and pain of the event.

According to the entry form ,it will be 11th-12th October in NW Pennines.

Thanks Pual. I was taking my info from the PC home page, which still reads TBC. Pennines in October........

'cept that the year on the forms is wrong...

What about location of Summer PC - surely not the Peak District again?

TBC is the venue date is fixed yes NW Pennines confirmed.

need some information/help for doing the autumn polaris,have already done 2 summer polaris,any infor would be much appreciated.p.k.a

Paul
Check out the hints on the web site first and then come back with specific questions.
Your query is too broad but if you have done 2 summer events then Autumn/Spring events are the same except you have to carry equipment and food for 2 days and spend a night at a wilderness camp site.

thanx graham guess what i want to know at the over night camp is there any toilets, water buffs,or to we have to carry our own water and a shovel!! i just want to know whats at the over night camp site?

there were some big rocks to squat behind at autumn 2002 wilderness campsite. just watch where you walk is all i can say. not very constructive, but hey, some people even complained about washing bikes in the stream. 1 thing though, a van full of booze made its way to the campsite, which cant be a bad thing in my opinion.

Paul
all that information is there on the website but to answer your specific questions
Yes we provide toilets at O/N, long queues can be expected in the morning.
If there is no spring or stream we provide water, again expect queues (remember Salisbury)as the supply can be stretched.
Only complaints about bike washing is the inconsiderate teams that wash their bikes upstream of those drinking, we could set up zone but they would only be ignored, why wash a bike anyway it is only going to get dirty the following day.
What's a water buff? Clean answers please.
Alcohol is available for those who do not carry own supplies.

allright..allright. enough about clean bikes. the less ignorant but blissfully unaware apologised in october about washing bikes. i think he means water butt. aren't they those metre square cubes that you can get? one thing that i may have mentioned elsewhere, but i will never do without them again, is clean and dry gloves+socks for sunday morning. whatever you do, just endeavour to have these two items ready for the off on day 2. hard enough doing your first wilderness camp, without starting day 2 with cold+wet extremities. IMHO for what its worth!!!!!!!!!

"why wash a bike anyway it is only going to get dirty the following day."

Because if you don't get it properly cleaned and oiled you are likely to suffer from serious chainsuck on the second day? Just a thought - it has certainly happened to us on multi-day rides.

'Wilderness' is putting it a bit strong from my limited experience. 'Nice bit of countryside' might be more like it. Still very enjoyable, and I look forward to our next event...whenever that might be.

allriht people i got the name wrong water buff sounds more fun but it's water bowsers as in water tanks on wheels,so there lets here no more 'bout water buffs,thanx for the advise from various sources, i might see u all at askham t/q
tomorrow,if not see u in autumn.anybody else get
the clues from summer polaris as to where the autumn
polaris will be held??

no clues
NW England but not Lakes!
Pennines

No clues?

and then you tell us it is not the Lakes?

Sounds like a clue to me!

and then the word "Pennines"???

So does that mean they will be in the Pennines? which is still pretty broad considering NW England (but not the lakes) has a fair amount of open countryside!

Surely you can do better than that!

Surely the words North and West are also clues but where does the North start?
North of M62?
North of A66?
North of A57?
North of A69
Knowing takes all of the fun out of it, it is better to guess.

so there were not toilets on the autumn 2002..

I must have been lucky on the other winter/autumn events, since there has always been porta loo's !!!

(Todmorton is around the pennines toooo)

Graham

North and West are extremely relative!

As far is I am concerned, at this exact moment North is anywhere beyond Welwyn Garden City Police Station and West is anything on the other side of John Lewis!!!

(For those who know the area, yes that does mean I'm sitting in the Council Offices)!

Mark
I not understand you message there are toilets at overnight. Always have been always will be.

Hi Graham,
I thought there was.!!! was looking at the comment earlier in this thread from

strugglingoutofbuttermereonsundaymorning

seemed to suggest there was no loo's !!

knowng the location will not take the fun out of it! but it may take a tiny bit of the pain away.
naa forget that, nowt will take the pain away,all i'll say- does it hurt!!if it's were i think it is your in for a whole lotta pain

Paul
But it will stop locals pre-riding the event area.
If you come from where I think you do, pet, then it will not be a long journey.
Pain is only temporary, well for 7 hours and 5 hours on a Polaris anyway

OK so lets take this logically

er... Paul where d'ya live???

i wasn't suggesting there were no toilets. i was informing you that i found human shit behind a feckin large boulder, whilst looking for somewhere to have a pee. being a dog owner and having a love of the countryside allows me a fascinating insight into the world off poo. in my informed opinion it was definitely from one of us polaris types. s'pose i should of just peed into stream...oops

hi Tony F

i'm from Newcastle originally but now live in god's back garden (the lake district)Kendal to be
precise.why does that make a diffrence??

Paul

Graham thinks you will be "local" to the Autumn event but it is not in the Lakes, so that narrows it down a little!

When you're stuck down here in the South every little bit of pre-information helps.

As for living in "God's back garden" all I can say is you lucky, lucky b*st*rd!!!

hi Tony

yes i know i am it's great, i mean just yesterday(wednesday),
there i was finished at two o'clock right bike out
of i go 25 mile trek over the Garbon pass into kentmere back home,paradise!
right my theory is that it's got to be the pennines around Hexham, allendale area,if i'm right i've done 3 t/q's in/around that area,if i'm
right oh my god!! hard,hard!

Alright, alright... no need to rub it in!

At least the sun is shining down here in Hertfordshire and i've got the soft top on the Land Rover. Think I'll just have to bunk off early myself and explore a few byways on the way home!

IT'S SUNNY IN GOD'S COUNTRY TOO.
Ride home you lazy B like I did, along the banks of the Tees.
Training for IOM E2E!
Might even do a trail quest soon.
Paul
Good guess, close but................

got a t/q end of the month at swaledale,so i'll be there,can't make IOM,wife & all that.
Any way back to GODS COUNTRY took me self of into it yesterday what a day, 6hrs 30mins of pure pleasure! Meet a couple who were having a little
run took a bit further, they loved it!by the the hubby is only european champion of yachting,how's that for GOD'S COUNTRY only the best!!

It wasn't me old mates Lester and Dave was it?
Sad to say I played 18 holes with the wife today after the mother and father of all storms, wish I had gone out on my bike,
May see you in Swaledale.

no there names were richard & kate stenhouse from leicester,nice couple,said they would be in touch about coming up again for another run around.golf,i'm with oscar wilde on that one! quote,GOLF SPOILS A GOOD WALK!unquote,by the way any time any one fancy a run around GOD'S COUNTRY,just let me know!

actually it was Mark Twain

but i understand Oscar sometimes lost his balls in the rough

I used to think that Paul until a really bad back forced me off my bike until I had to have a 2 level spinal fusion op, then during F&M I started to play golf with my 9 year old son and now I am bitten with the golf bug which got worse when I was in Dubai.
But a ride in North Yorkshire (God's Country)name the date.

now your talking battle of the roses,north or west
of the pennines.EXCELLENT.i'm busy next few weekends,but we'll get together on that ride yorkshire then THE REAL GOD'S COUNTRY,anybody out there fancy a ride out!funny but because of F&M i was able to buy my pride & joy(marin mount vision),i call her "THUNDERCHILD",As in WAR OF THE WORLDS.

It may have been Dr Johnson

welcome back JonB

Actually I checked - it was Mark Twain

Dr Johnson just said "Sod this bloody waste of time"

I haven't been anywhere Graham, just busy.